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  • Ohgodwhatisthat
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    10:20, June 1, 2016

    This has always made me curious, what exactly are Lautrec's motives or purposes in the game? Most people who play the game likely know that Lautrec was imprisoned in the church for something (possibly related to the firekeeper soul and body on the altar?) and that after certain requirements are met he'll kill the firekeeper at Firelink shrine and run for Anor Londo. My question is: Why? Why did he kill her for the firekeeper soul and not use it? Is he insane? Does he not like firekeepers for some reason? Or is there someone else like his apparent mistress, the goddess Fina, directing his actions from the shadows?

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    • first of all, there is clearly a six-eyed channeler near his prison cell, so he could be awaiting transport to seathe's house of horrors. the firekeeper was on an altar so there couldve been a funeral or a ritual, lastly, he seeks (not runsretreats) to anor londo - home of the Gods, and Fina is a goddess so it is possible he was looking for Fina.


      Those speculations aside, He was captured and imprisoned, chosen undead frees him, lautrec sits near Anastacia and observes her while the undead is away. Lautrec will kill and take her fire keep soul, he leaves for A. Londo to offer his precious soul up to Fina as a gift, undead fins him, kills him. Yay.

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    • We never see any evidence of Fina being there though, in fact it's likely that she left with Gwynevere and the others to escape the coming Dark. Lautrec really has nothing to go to in A. Londo unless he simply doesn't know about what happened.

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    • It would help if we knew what Fina actually did. All we know is that she was really hot, but I always figured that Lautrec felt he needed to gather Firekeeper souls for some reason. Not that I have any proof of that, just the fact that he's locked up in a prison of the parish where we find a dead firekeeper, and he makes a beeline for anastacia once we free him.

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    • What if Fina was actually like witches from those fairytails? Gathering Firekeepers' souls (not on her own, but using silly guys like Lautrec) just to maintain her beauty/still keep herself alive?

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    • possible.

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    • Gwyndolin sees the fact he killed a firekeeper which is exactly what eh didn;t want to happen and kills him outright or maybe he just ran in to Ornstein and Smough got slaughtered and crawled in to a corner. Both possible

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    • Here's a long shot, but here we go--Anastacia was implied to be some kind of 'heretic' by the crestfallen knight. Is it possible she spoke 'blasphemy' about Fina, and Lautrec, being the madman he is, felt exile was inadequate and set out to kill her? If he's that crazy and vindictive, it may explain why he took the firekeeper soul, yet didn't use it (a trophy). Not a particularly rational explanation, but Lautrec is a tried-and-true not-rational person.

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    • I always thought Anastacia was connected to Andre due to his comments of backstabbing and if you were going to break someone's knees a hammer would be the likely candidate. He couldn;t kill her because of her role as firekeeper, arguably so he did the most damage he could do. Maybe she was with the rebellion and turned on them? ENough to preserve her life but not avoid being sentenced?

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    • Take up the fact that he carries a Souvenir of Reprisal. Then, take this information from it's article on this wiki.

      The knights called the Blades of the Darkmoon punish the guilt-soaked offenders of the Gods and take this as proof of their conquest. The earless corpses of the guilty will be left behind as a warning to others, inspiring both fear and respect for the Gods. Such is the eternal mandate of the Dark Sun.

      From this, it seems possible that Lautrec has connections or is in the Blades of the Darkmoon covenant. Anastacia may have been guilty, which regarded her death. Whereas some (96.245.42.8) says that she may have spoken blasphemy or herecy about a god. Whilst she appears to have no tongue or became mute, it may explain that. But, the sin is not contained, yet.

      This was truly a longshot, but collides with a lot of good information.

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    • i think it's implied that the Souvenir of Reprisal is taken from Lautrec, meaning he's the guilty one and Gwyndolin considers him to be the sinner

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    • 96.245.42.8 wrote:
      Here's a long shot, but here we go--Anastacia was implied to be some kind of 'heretic' by the crestfallen knight. Is it possible she spoke 'blasphemy' about Fina, and Lautrec, being the madman he is, felt exile was inadequate and set out to kill her? If he's that crazy and vindictive, it may explain why he took the firekeeper soul, yet didn't use it (a trophy). Not a particularly rational explanation, but Lautrec is a tried-and-true not-rational person.


      I hate to be "that guy," but that idea gets shot down the instant you realize that Anastacia is mute until we revive her, so it's hard to swallow that she "spoke blasphemy" to Lautrec. What did she do, use sign language?

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    • I'm pretty sure the crestfallen warrior states how the Firekeeper had her tounge cut out by the village she lived in to keep her from speaking blasphemy and she became mute because of it because she couldn't speak to begin with also I believe Lautrec must've gone to Depth's to leave his sign so maybe that means he was either spying on you or killed that Firekeeper in the Depths that you find near all those toxic blow dart guys also the fact that his armor is found in the Ornstein and Smough boss room might either indicate he couldn't defeat them and they threw him out and left his armor hear OR that the Armor of Favor is common amongst followers of Goddess Fina which might indicate that Lautrec is playing as being a follower for all the benefits and maybe Seath thought he was a follower of Fina and thoughts that's a rare occurrence so I'll just capture him and use him later(not Seath himself but a Channeller) either way I'm not entirely sure that Lautrec is a lover of Fina and maybe that's why we get that Souvenir of Reprisal from him

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    • Scratch that maybe Lautrec is a true follower of Fina but I believe that he is probably in Anor Londo to end his ties with her which is why he is holding the Firekeeper Soul to use as a sort of sacrifice or severance package for Fina

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    • It's pretty clear that he killed Anastacia for her humanity, the game states that Firekeepers have a large mass of humanity writhing in their bosoms, and Lautrec makes a statement about how some people have "more humanity than they know what to do with", followed by a "Keh heh heh heh heh..."

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    • if he truly hunts fire keepers then y didn't he kill the Anor Londo fire keeper on his way to O&S? also there is something about the location of his armor drop, y there? despite we kill him in the hallway before that arena.

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    • Shurado, time is convoluted in Lordran ;) Maybe because the Anor Londo fire keeper wasnt really defenceless in the sense that shes the only one thats not seen behind bars and is a Blade of the Darkmoon.

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    • 27.131.34.125 wrote:
      Shurado, time is convoluted in Lordran ;) Maybe because the Anor Londo fire keeper wasnt really defenceless in the sense that shes the only one thats not seen behind bars and is a Blade of the Darkmoon.

      There's a second Fire Keeper that is not behind bars.

      Quelaan, aKa the Fair Lady is weak, blind and wouldn't pose much threat, however she isn't behind bars ;3 Anastacia is the only Fire Keeper behind bars and that is simply because she was imprisoned for speaking Blasphemy.


      i had a conversation about Lautrec with a friend yesterday and we both wished that the whole Story about him and Anastacia would've been explained more.

      My Friends theory was pretty much the same as one found already in this Discussion.

      Mine then involved the fact that he's found near a Dead Firekeeper and pretty fast seeks out the next Firekeeper. i Quote:

      "You know what i think? The first time we find Lautrec he is in a prison cell close to a Dead Firekeeper. the next time we meet him he's at the Firelink shrine looking at Anastacia who he will kill when you find the Firekeeper soul in the Depths.

      Now i assume he either killed the Firekeeper in the Depths or that in the Undead Parish first, doesn't matter too much but both times he could not obtain the Soul for reasons, in the Parish he was imprisoned before he could take the soul and when he is finally freed the Chosen Undead already took the soul and so, to not reveal his intentions, he acts grateful to the chosen Undead, probably only to backstab him later. In the depths it's likely he was interupted by something down there and had to run or he would've died, planning to return he gets down there and maybe sees the Chosen undead get that Soul as well so he decides to go to the next Firekeeper he knows and kills her, this time successfully running off with the Soul to Anor Londo. Now if he's really on a Quest to collect Firekeeper souls he would try attacking the Firekeeper in Anor Londo but she'd pose a threat to him considering she's not as defenseless as the other Firekeepers so Lautrec runs off and hides, this would explain the Souvenir of Reprisal found when killing him, by attacking the Firekeeper he made himself sinful if he was not already a sinner for killing the other Firekeepers. It's highly possible the next Target would've been the Fair Lady which brings us to the reason he maybe traversed the Depths initially, maybe he didn't really wanna kill that Firekeeper but instead found himself in a lucky situation, his initial plan may have been, after hearing there's a pretty defenseless Firekeeper in Queelag's Domain, he intended to go there, which requires the Key found after defeating the Gaping Dragon. Anyways, i have no explanation why you'd find his Armor Set above the Boss Arena or Ornstein and Smough but there's only two reasons you do: either he somehow got up there without fighting those two or he actually defeated the Ornstein and Smough of his world. and just died from you killing him."


      Now after i explained that my friend came up with this explanation:

      What if the Goddess Fina, The Goddess of Beauty and Love, saw what happened to Lordran and saw the bad the Undead bring upon this world, so her Plan to stop all this was by preventing the Undead from surviving and to do this she ordered her Faithful followers to extingush the Bonfires all around Lordran. Which means killing all the Firekeepers of the World so that the Bonfires will die out. then, Anastacia, a Firekeeper herself spoke 'Blasphemy' about Fina which led the people of the Village to cut out her tongue but for some reason keep her around anyways and imprison her below Firelink shrine. But as Fina wants them dead she still sent out her Followers to kill the Firekeepers, sadly the only one who followed her still was Lautrec who maybe had a crush on Fina or maybe it was even a relationship.

      So Lautrec travels out into Lordran to kill the Firekeepers and try ending the Curse of the Undead that way."





      I really wish we had more information about Lautrec, he seems like an ass and stuff but maybe he really had a good reason to try and kill them.

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    • Time is convoluted in lordran, the only reason we can interact with the NPCs that we CAN interact with is because our timelines are in tact, as shown by Solaire's dialogue when we first meet him. Lautrec's timeline probably didn't meet with the Darkmoon Knightess's, and thus they didn't meet. Also, what happens when we die in Lordran? We show up at the bonfire. Lautrec probably just showed up at the bonfire when we killed him, and after that our timelines no longer overlapped. His body we found was probably far into the future of his timeline after he had gone hollow and died. He probably didn't find Quelaan, assuming that's her name, because she's behind an illusory wall. And it also makes a lot of sense that he didn't kill the Darkmoon Knightess because she's not defenseless. Still I feel that the most likely motive of Lautrec is that he is hunting the humanity of the Firekeepers.

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    • "...killed that Firekeeper in the Depths that you find near all those toxic blow dart guys"

      ^Toxic Blowdart guys? None in the Depths. Those are in Blighttown.


      "...when you find the Firekeeper soul in the Depths"

      http://darksouls.wikia.com/wiki/Depths#Notable_Items

      ^Hmmm, no firekeeper soul here.

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