Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-5632187-20130127004214/@comment-24.202.32.151-20140616035153

Just saying, I might not be right on this but here is my theory:

First of all we all know that Seath and Havel hate each other. We also know that Seath attacked Oocatile (Or whatever name the city have). Lets assume that Havel is a hero would'nt he want to stop Seath from attacking a city and killing people? Even if Havel is not a hero wouldn't he just want to stop Seath from accomplishing his goal because they hate each other?

Here is what I think happen Gwyn ask Seath to attack OOlacile or whatever the damn name is, So havel being a jero or just wanting to be a pain in the ass for Seath take arms against him, then Seath having Dukedom make a rebel out him and punish him by hollowing him. then Gwyn had no choice but to lock him up in the tower so he wouldn't arm anybody or himself.