Talk:Watchtower Basement Key/@comment-1687225-20120926013423/@comment-6003396-20131209063733

It may be possible for deities to become hollow. Many speculate that Gwyn is hollowed by the time he is fought in the Kiln of The First Flame, but we can't be sure on this point either. And just because Havel fought the dragons does not mean that he had to be a super natural being. The exploits of the Chosen Undead prove that a human can defeat dragons and even the "gods" themselves. But after reading your comment, I only just realized that it isn't actually known if Havel was a mere human or a deity/of the "lord" race. An interesting thought.

I think out of all of Havel's items, the description of this key sheds the most light on whether or not the actual Havel is encountered in the bottom of the tower. Specifically, the "hero" it speaks of and the "friend" who locked him away. Doesn't is seem most likely that the hero would be Havel himself and not one of his followers/some random person who came in possession of all of his items? In other item descriptions, Havel is mentioned to be friends/battlefield compatriots of Gwyn. Gwyn being the most likely person to have the authority to lock someone away for life.

But it isn't absolutely definitive what the right answer might be. I just think that more things point towards it being Havel than not.