Talk:Dragon Slayer Ornstein/@comment-222.144.173.69-20161007152926/@comment-4580419-20161008071626

Well, my point about the armor is that it isn't Ornstein's armor. It's not called Ornstein's armor and the description doesn't say that it is. It only says that it is associated to him. Because it looks just like his, obviously. The Old Dragonslayer in DkS2 doesn't have to be Ornstein. No where does it say that he is. Same thing here. The armor's description says "this knight, who long guarded the ruined cathedral, left the land". "This knight" is whomever owned the armor. It doesn't say that it was Ornstein.

The  (unfortunately common)   argument that timelines have changed is unacceptable. It would wipe away all the canon of the series and is completely arbitrary. If this is different, then anything that hasn't been re-stated can be different. Anything that isn't specifically written (like the existance of Nito, for instance) becomes non-canon and any connections to previous games becamos void. Saying that DkS3's continuity is a different one from the previous games is a cop-out. It's just a way of attributing an answer to questions you can't answer. But the game actually answers this question.

It can't be Ornstein's armor because he died in DkS1. It was a non-optional boss and it dropped his soul, so it was the real Ornstein. Not an illusion. In DkS3 Smough's Greathammer says that he was the last one to stand guard because the Chosen Undead killed Ornstein first during that fight, making Smough the last one standing guard.

DkS3 also gives the identity of the Armor's owner. The description for Sacred Oath has changed in this installment of the series. "This is the tale of the Sun's firstborn, his faithful first knight, and the brave dragonslayer who served them both." They included "the brave dragonslayer" for a reason. He is the owner of the armor. He served both The Nameless King AND Ornstein. After Ornstein died he took up the position of defending the ruined cathedral, but eventually left the land in search of his remaining former master. There is also the boss Dragonslayer Armour. His soul's description says that it lost its master long ago, but not who it was or how did it lose it. The brave dragonslayer (from Sacred Oath) was the owner of the Dragonslayer Armour (the boss) but after Ornstein died he donned the Dragonslayer Set (from Archdragon Peak) to honor his captain.

That's a perfectly good explanation. It doesn't mess with the canon. And all the evidence is taken directly from the game.