Talk:Griggs of Vinheim/@comment-65.60.130.246-20150101085429/@comment-4511886-20150101215339

Glad to see you made an account!

For me, Logan leaves whenever I've killed the Iron Golem/entered Anor Londo for the first time. Never had to get the Lordvessel for it to happen. I'm certain that I've even fought O&S with two attuned Soul Spears in NG.

If you kick him off/he falls off while you battle, either leave and re-enter Firelink or save, exit and reload. His drops will appear where he normally stands. This also applies to any other NPC, although some have a tendency to not have it work because the drops "drop" onto an unreachable ledge, rather than falling into the abyss below.