Talk:Dragon Slayer Ornstein and Executioner Smough/@comment-25247371-20140806014054/@comment-25247371-20140811081544

Well, the Silver Knight Shield +4 has 74 stability--more even than the Black Iron Shield +4 at 73(it's a twinkling titanite upgrade path though). It also has decent resistances (incl. lightning) and a rather light weight.

My main problem isn't actually O&S at this point, it's Random Invader #19472452 with his Strength Weapon +100. I lose more humanity to reverse hollowing to invade spam right before summoning Solaire or literally about to walk through the door than I have fightning O&S, by a long shot. I'm so much of an honor duelist (even though I really suck) I can't bring myself to dashboard or summon, but that may change if it keeps on happening and happening...

Main threat of Super Orns is that a lot of the battle is outside of lock-on range, leading to difficulty blocking whilst trying to move any direction other than toward him. That, and I haven't quite learned his moveset yet due to the aforementioned invader spam issue, still occurring at 3:00 CST.

Billy Ho, going at them alone (I did it for low stakes a couple times earlier) your main danger is getting dead angled by Ornstein. I swear I get most of my damage fighting on my lonesome from him dead angling me through my shield. Also it seems a point arrives where Ornstein ends up sticking to Smough like glue and won't let you get any hits in on him with a GS (was experimenting with a +10 Zwei (stagger wunderwaffe) on a light armor DWGR setup. Not a fast weapon, but still.). That may just be one of those one-battle quirks though, who knows.

Yes, Zelron, this comment train is very massive. This should be on the talk page (if wikia has talk pages?) honestly.