Talk:Black Knight Sword/@comment-86.207.85.69-20141221004749/@comment-4511886-20141222112737

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Perhaps I jumped the gun a bit on the Strength scaling, but it's still relevant. Compare it to the Man-Serpent Greatsword, the holy grail of Strength builds when it comes to greatswords. It deals more damage than the BKS starting at 31 Strength, and ends up dealing 21 points more at 40. To use it, you need 16/24 Strength, compared to the 14/20 strength of the BKS, but the Man-Serpent GS has no Dexterity requirement, which saves you between three and nine levels, which is a lot of levels. Remember, you want to avoid having to grind levels when you've passed SL 100.

Perhaps the damage per hit is higher on the Black Knight Sword, but with the stat investment, you can do better when it comes to damage per second.

If you can use weapons like the BBoP effectively compared to other bows then you're not doing a Strength build, you're doing Quality. As an example, here's a comparision of the BBoP to the Longbow:

At 13/40, the BBoP deals 4 points higher damage than the Longbow. At 40/18, the Longbow wins by 30 points and finally, at 40/40 it still beats the BBoP by 16 points. Even at the absolute base stats for the BBoP 9/18, the Longbow outdamages it by 2 points, and at 9/40 it only outdamages it by 12 points, compared to the Longbows 30 points, which still stays on the path of a dedicated Strength build. Also want to point out that if you don't level Dexterity past the requirement, then you save four levels.

Another example can be found in DaSII. Think of a Hexer that focuses on Faith, but still builds decent Intelligence. That character is a Hex build, not a Faith build. Same thing here, just because you focus more on a stat, doesn't make the build into it.

Demons are encountered in two portions of the game. The Demon Ruins and bosses at the start. The only enemies that it really shines against is Capra and possibly Quelaag. The Firesage isn't about dealing damage as much as not taking it and the Centipede Demon really doesn't have enough HP to justify the need for a 20% damage boost, most anything will kill it reasonably quick.

In the end, the point I want to get across in my ranty state is that, although useful, the BKS isn't the godsend that people make it out to be, and just because you focus mainly on Strength, doesn't mean your build isn't Quality.

Note: All numbers I've used are based on highest reinforcements. +5 for the BKS and +15 for everything else. It's fully possible that the stats are different at +0-4 and +0-14, however, unless you're staying at untwinked low-level PvP, you will want to max these weapons out sooner or later anyway.