Board Thread:Wiki Discussion/@comment-3492791-20140523192544/@comment-25173123-20140805172222

And now I see where the issues all started. :)

You guys did a good job of discussing many issues and coming up with a plan. Though I think some things were misguided and need looking at.

I mentioned in another post elsewhere about png being preferred and not mandatory. As many jpg images already exist and if png is required then older images are against policy. Pushing png is good. Forcing it is not as much a necessity and causes conflicting issues with media already present.

Interpretation of policy and those of us users that are trying to strictly enforce standards versus those of us trying to simply guide the Wikia seems to be an issue. It was mentioned here that it is more a guideline then a strict enforcing tool. But same people are now using it as an enforcement tool and deleting based on interpretation of what we can and can't allow on the Wikia.

In question now is the recent issue of fan art pictures being systematically deleted from the Wikia. The discussion items on that can be found here: http://darksouls.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:86185#8

I also totally understand the thought that we do not want the Wikia to turn into a promoting tool for Youtubers and such. But some of the wording of the video section really leaves no room for inclusion of a video that is found on Youtube to have been very helpful in a specific area of the game. Almost to the point of the only videos allowed are those which are specifically made directly for this Wikia and under the restrictive guidlines. (I remember reading where you guys were looking at not wanting to be too restrictive?)

I have yet to upload a video to the Wikia because of how clinical the requirements seem. So I can't be talking (not that I usually do anyways), nor can I seem to commentate using text?? Which is something I usually do in videos. Seems limiting? Length I can live with... but if a portion of a video is found to be very informative then I would think a time stamped link to video would be an option so it starts at the point where it might be relevant to an article discussion? (just a thought, not sure what the physical upload options are for videos here yet?)

Basically I am a big talker/communicator and I think videos can supply a lot more information then a wall of text. (funny, seeing that this is surely a wall of text I am writing now.ha) So a little more leniency in this area might be prudent? Maybe simply the changing of the language to use words as preferred and standard, instead of required and mandatory?

We all know this is an informative Wikia. But to think we have to clinically wash away the fandom from our input into it will surely mean people will find other places more entertaining to look up information. As was mentioned previously about not writing in legal terms, well the same thing applies to other material. Let's not lose our reason for being here in the first place. Because we are gamers that are entertained by Dark Soul's and what it has to offer. And we should equally be entertained by the informative material presented in our Wikia.

tl/dr - Let's stop deleting for the sake of deleting and allow some things to be just because they aren't hurting things.

And users, talk to other users!!!! What is up with the no communication with users on issues? If Admin have been nice enough to take the time to communicate issues with users then other users should do the same.

I talk too much (for sure!) but others seem to think actions speak louder then words? (Not so when other users have no understanding why the actions are being taken.)

See you all in the Painted World ~ Hollow till the day I live... :)