Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-80.1.37.169-20140510152925/@comment-186.251.61.230-20160916140105

The hard thing to understand is that in DS2 there are a lot of evidences that the fire have faded many times before and it keep fading and comming back but in DS3 is stated that the fire never faded and everybody is afraid of it and the fire itself is weaker. Even with the host stronger than the last one it get weaker. If DS2 happens in a diferent place in the world as DS3 so the kingdoms could exist without replacing eachother and the fire could be keept linked and the optional ending of the DS2 could be ignored there would be no problem but the flame must be linked on the birth of the first flame where that weird sword where alredy there long before the lords souls exist (sword description on DS3). In DS2 that place is inside a cave made to protect it where there is even a thone where the host could sit and w8 to be consumed but on DS3 it is in the firelink shirine, same as DS1, so for DS2 to be before DS3 they would need to destroy the firelink shirine and than remake it ages after and it just dont make sense. I agree that the Dark Lord ending in DS1 is not the end of fire cause you just walk away and let it vanish giving time to someone else come and link it and DS3 let it clear that you dont have the power to erase the flame. So, I think that DS3 take place before DS2 and after DS3 dont matter if you link or not the fire cause it is to weak to keep shining and will fade so that the world of DS2 can happen. And in relation to the itens of DS2 that can be found in DS3 there are a few ways to time travel in DS2 so maybe that is how they apeared there. This theory would explain why there is no black knight in DS2 also cause in the long ages they would be long gone while in DS3 they are still "recent".