Board Thread:Wiki Discussion/@comment-5632187-20150201004349/@comment-5632187-20150201115349

Matsczon wrote:

On the point about derailing, I'd say it's mainly down to the moderator/admin's discretion to decide what should and shouldn't be reported.

I think that leaving it to Mod/Admin discretion is usually best, as we shouldn't need users to report it to us if things are being properly monitored.

Matsczon wrote:

But as a general rule of thumb, clearly intentional derailing should be reported on the first offense, and all repeated offenses. Unintentional derailing or, rather, not realising you're going off-topic, should be monitored, and repeat offenders should be warned. If they still keep derailing, they should be reported for the sake of the Forum's quality. Unintentionally derailing comments should be removed if they run the risk of boiling down to a casual chat between users. That's what the chat room is for. Do we feel multiple offenses like this on the Forums would be worthy of an Admin intervening and blocking the user for a short duration? Otherwise, warnings are pointless.

Matsczon wrote:

In flame wars, everyone participating is an offender. I don't care if he called your mother ugly, or he's trying to force his religion onto you. Report the flamer/flame war to an admin or moderator, and ignore it. Leave the thread alone until the issue has been resolved, then continue posting on it like normal. Any further input into a flame war will just stoke the fire. I agree everyone in the flame war is an offending party. That is why I think a FW thread should be closed for a short duration until the issue has been dealt with, either between the two users, or with Administrative intervention.

Matsczon wrote:

I also want to point out that we should specify how users should do when other issues comes up during a discussion. E.g if there is a rule/policy change, but that change leads to something else needing to be altered as well. Let's say we're on a discussion for changing a policy, and someone brings up another policy that needs to be changed. It should be encouraged that users do not discuss that policy here, and that the keep the current thread on-topic, but mention the possibility to begin a new discussion for them if they'd like to see it discussed ASAP.

Matsczon wrote:

In my opinion, it should be allowed, as long as the title is still relevant (e.g we shouldn't be talking about Fina on a discussion about Solaire being Gwyn's firstborn, but we can do it, to some extent, if the topic is "Lautrec's motives") and the main issue is resolved, if there was one. Otherwise, a new thread should be made specifically for that topic. Possibly with a link to the thread where the idea originated from. In terms of a lore discussion, yes I think it would be fine if the topic is shifted slightly, as long as the overall topic remains relevant to that discussion. I agree that otherwise a new thread should be made.

Matsczon wrote:

Of course, it's always prefferable to move these discussions to a new thread, but I think we can give users some room with this without reducing the quality of the discussions. I agree giving them some room would be nice, as it wouldn't be so strict where one off-topic comment is leading to us creating new threads left and right. Perhaps just create the new thread if it is a topic that can lead to a decent discussion, just not a discussion that belongs on that original thread.