Talk:Havel's Armor/@comment-137.118.239.237-20140803030430/@comment-87.206.249.27-20141224133615

40 is minimum, anything above depends on your wepon and shield, I had 40, silver knight shield and man-serpent greatsword and i could easily midroll w/o havels ring (i had rofap). With havels ring, mask of father and some light weapon set you could prolly fastroll.