Talk:Manus, Father of the Abyss/@comment-71.204.137.193-20130629085511/@comment-6003396-20130630040220

some extra things to add: Elizabeth dialogue: An abyss was begat of the ancient beast, and threatens to swallow the whole of Oolacile.

If Manus is ancient from Elizabeth's perspective, then we can assume that "primeval" in this context applies to the first definition: Of or resembling the earliest ages in the history of the world.

XtremeVoidNinja wrote: Manus would have to be in New Londo Ruins for the Abyss to be there...

Remember, that the Abyss is deep below New Londo, and not in New Londo Ruins itself. It is probable that New Londo was built on top of the already existing Abyss, which by that time had spread considerably.