Board Thread:Dark Souls II/@comment-46.64.182.203-20140312230146/@comment-5115051-20140403234555

184.5.186.240 wrote: Here's an interesting idea, what if the Old Dragonslayer (ODS henceforth) isn't the Ornstein but only someone that believes they are Ornstein.

The senario I envision for this is as follows. From the canon the original Ornstein is killed by the Chosen Undead (CU henceforth) in Anor Lando. The CU transforms his soul into the Dragonslayer Spear. The CU completes the story line of DS.

Here is where the wild speculation starts. The First Flame is linked and the CU is gone. Time passes and someone or something finds the Dragonslayer Spear, and perhaps the Leo Ring since both were last seen in the possession of the CU. Even though it is a spear, it is still the soul of Ornstein. Now since powerful souls can grant abilities, ie the Lord Souls, perhaps they can also pass along traits and even memories. The new owner of the spear is either similar to Ornstein to begin with or weak willed enough to be changed, though not completely, explaining the differences in behavior like using dark magic instead of lightning.

Over time the ODS's and Ornstein's personalities blend together. One day the ODS realizes realizes he is missing his armor, so he travels to Anor Lando, finds the remnants of Ornstein's armor, and patches it up as best he can, explaining the differences. Alternately if ODS was unable to find Ornstein's armor or maybe not even Anor Lando, he commissions a new set, as close to what is possible from Ornstein's memory and the smiths available to him, also explaining the differences. If he did not find it with the Dragonslayer Spear, ODS also searches for and finds the Leo Ring.

Now that ODS is fully armed, he is ready to take up his post. I personally like this part because it works whether Drangleic is Anor Lando or not. The original Ornstein died guarding a cathedral in Anor Lando. So the ODS found the Cathedral of the Blue and it was close enough in appearence that he stayed until his defeat in DS 2.

As for Targray, the Blue Sentinels have a similar mission to the Way of the Blue, so ODS believed that they were his allies, both serving Gwyndolin, and left them be.

Probably completely wrong, but I feel it is an interesting and novel enough of an idea for consideration. That's a pretty cool theory, but

It hinges on someone randomly coming upon the first flame (which required the aid of one of the Primordial Serpents) and saying "oh look, a spear and a ring." It seems a bit too coincidental.

and also, souls have never showed signs of being able to alter people's minds. The CU possesed over a dozen Boss weapons (from souls much stronger than Ornstein's) and they never changed him the slightest bit.

Not saying your wrong, but there's nothing to back it up.