Talk:Dragon Slayer Ornstein/@comment-222.144.173.69-20161007152926/@comment-4580419-20161011110126

Hey Mats. My argument agrees that the cathedral in question is the cathedral in Anor Londo, so we shouldn't have a problem there. And my argument is also agreeable with the timeline problem you're proposing. The "brave dragonslayer" from Sacred Oath would've taken up after Ornstein's duty of protecting the cathedral, after Ornstein's death. So there is no reason for him to be mentioned in DkS1. And DkS2 takes place in Drangleic, not Lordran. Lordran lore is scarcely mentioned, and when it is, it's more as myth than anything else. Take the DIvine Blessing's description from DkS2, for instance, it says that Gwynevere's name has been forgotten and they even deny her existence. The Old Dragonslayer's soul and Leo Ring's descriptions as well. They don't mention Ornstein. If they didn't mention Ornstein, why would they mention the "lesser" knight who's taken after him? And being a dragonslayer who served in Anor Londo he would've had access to the armors and weapons avaiable there. And he would've had access to the Giant Blacksmith, who could fashion him a spear if none was avaiable.

So now you have two possibilities:

1. The "brave dragonslayer" who served both Ornstein and the Nameless King (as described in Sacred Oath) took up Ornstein's mantle and later went looking for the Nameless King, eventually leaving behind the Dragonsleyer Armor.

2. Ornstein somehow survived the batte with the Chosen Undead in DkS1. Even though he died at that battle. And we got his soul. And there is no explanation as to how he would've survived (at least none that I've seen). And left behind an armor that isn't called Ornstein's Armor.

Hi Den. Do you mean Sacred Oath's description? The three people mentioned there are the Sun's Firstborn (Nameless King), his first knight (Ornstein, as described on the Leo Ring) and the brave dragonslayer. In the video I said that this "brave dragonslayer" was the original owner of the Dragon Slayerarmour boss, now controlled by the Pilgrim Butterfly. But he left it behind to take up Ornstein's armor (or one just like it).

I hope this clarifies both your questions.