Board Thread:Wiki Discussion/@comment-4511886-20150425102151

Hello, people of wikia. Matsczon here.

As you may see, this post is going to be somewhat large, so I'm going to be straightforward today. One of our pages could use a new name, and there is two pages for two "versions" of the same character, which we don't need.

The pages in question on are the Ogre and Saint Elizabeth. The Ogre page should, in my opinion, be renamed to Cyclops and the information about Saint Elizabeth  should be moved to Elizabeth's Lore section. Both of these pages should, however, stay as redirects.

My reasoning is as follows: The Ogres are related to real life ogres in that they eat humans (a trait that is far from exclusive to them), a potential miscoloration of the skin (compared to the average european man around the 1500s) and their large size (once again, not exclusive to ogres). Their relation to cyclopes include their single eye in the middle of their forehead, their large size, again, and finally their tusk-like teeth (some, but not all, cyclopes also had tusks, or similar). While this comparision may put both names fairly evenly, there is nothing about the Ogres that directly points at ogres of real mythology.

Saint Elizabeth is, without a reasonable doubt, just the stories of Elizabeth that have been corrupted with the passing of time (much like many of the original stories from Dark Souls) and this is clear when the Elizabeth Mushrooms are identical in both games, and the description in Dark Souls II add the comment "but who can say now?" when Elizabeth's beauty is talked about. Troches tell that "Verbal histories often mention Saint Elizabeth;" and verbal histories are the easiest stories to corrupt, intentionally or not.

As always, feel free to discuss or suggest other pages. But opinions about the changes brought up in this post is the top priority of this thread. 