Talk:Kirk, Knight of Thorns/@comment-5134030-20160929051740

I think there is a misunderstanding with his sword and shield drops. I'm definitely certain that they work like the bell gargoyle's and butcher's drops, as in if they never dropped, the last possible encounter with that enemy will guarantee that they drop. Ex. If I didn't get a helmet from the first 3 gargoyles, then the fourth (and last) is guaranteed to drop it.

I have tested this with Kirk on several different characters and can confirm the above. In most cases, the sword and shield randomly drop on random encounters. Other times, both the sword and shield dropped on the last encounter. However, I always ended up with both his sword and shield after fighting him all 3 times. Interestingly, I also never ended up with any duplicate drops. This was also done without item discovery boosts, but occasionally I had a liquid humanity or two.

Or I am just incredibly lucky?