Talk:Estoc/@comment-25950924-20150105025818/@comment-25950924-20150206231721

Once upgraded rapier does about same damage, weighs 1.5 units less, and has higher crits. But this has better moveset? I only use R1 although the shield poke is nice.

It's been awhile since I've used a thrusting sword due to straight swords I really liked and still one shot a silver knight with a riposte despite lower crit bonus.