Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-5632187-20130203042433/@comment-72.8.246.201-20131002053142

My educated guess is that solaire is the intended first born. There are too many nods in his item descriptions, special abilities, and dialogue for him to be simply some random fool running around in Lordran. I recall ENB referencing Andre in his first born video as being the first born but then that part was cut out, so I speculate that just as the developers altered Andre's character that they altered solaire to be the first born instead. However, I don't trust the developers much since that whole trolling with the pendent.

As to why the first born was stripped of his godhood I would say he possibly wanted to reveal the faltering of the first flame or something that was not in line with how Gwyn wanted to handle the crisis. You can see to what extent that some like gwynodlin are willing to go to hide how far things have fallen for the gods. I can imagine Gwyn wasn't shouting out that the age of fire was ending and only sacrificed himself in secret to the rest of the world as a last ditch attempt.

Oh, and the comment that gods cant become undead. Gwyn is practically hallowed when you fight him at the end. His eyes have that same hollow look as the hollowed humans you encounter in the asylum. He has no lord-soul left and lost what ever determination he had to live when he relit the flame the first time. I think anything sentient and with a soul can become undead.