Talk:Gods/@comment-29522860-20170720212325/@comment-29522860-20170723043642

Perhaps, but I always interperated the Gods to be the clan of Gwyn that rules, while the general term for those other races is often "deity." I do not remember ever hearing Nito or the Witch, or even the Witch's children, to have been described as anything besides deity. Gods have always been named in relation to Gwyn, light, and Anor Londo.

And to explain to some prior comments why I listed Ciaran, Gwyn's knights, and Gwyn himself specifically as true Gods.

Gwyn, as the Lord of Light and the progenitor of the Anor Londo kingdom, could be considered the first God. But I now see that this does not really work for the same reason that we do not all neccisarilly consider the Pygmy the first human. Being the creator of a race does not mean you are part of it, just as the christian God is not an archangel despite them sometimes being considered his biological children.

Other than Gough's special case, it seems odd to me that some non soul race was the basis of Gwyn's army and personal guard, especially without a specific race name. Clearly Ciaran is not a human, but then what is she? I doubt that she just exists as a nameless race if she is a member of the Four Knights.

Gough is not listed as deific, so he is not a component in this conversation, and is irrelevant.

Since it is clear that they are not humans, perhaps they could be listed as relatives of Gods, while the questionable options are either removed or perhaps recatagorized on the page?