Talk:Havel the Rock/@comment-66.87.125.64-20140123055435

I think one of the deities was told about although I don't understand which one. Ornstein? Seeing as how they are both dragonslayers? Havel foiling the entire plan which I assume Paladin Leeroy was involved in but Havel escaped and now calls himself Andre of Astora. He has to be Havel, think, Why would the devs even dabble in the thought of Andre ( if he was just Andre of Astora) being the firstborn and then scrapping it? They debated on making Havel the firstborn or not. In dialogue as we know he mentions being betrayed. Let alone his immense strength and being one of the only npcs in the game that doesn't disentigrate?