Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-10209824-20140321195951/@comment-10209824-20140508172633

Cement Plant wrote: Oh I don't give a rat's ass about Dark Souls 2. The game's story and lore were executed at the same level everything else in the game. In other words, they're a joke.

What I was referring to was your take on Dark Souls lore, specifically the way you presented it - as if it was all a long known estabilished fact. While it's true that the game hints rather heavily towards Dark Soul being Humanity and Pygmy being Manus, there's still plenty of holes in tha ttheory. For example, if Dark Soul is Humanity, why can you use it to feed Bonfires? If Age of Dark is the Age of Man, why is the Man being so royally fucked by the Age of Dark? If Pygmy/Manus went insane eons before the time the game's events take place, why Kaathe still does his bidding? And so on. Why the hell are you on a DS2 thread if you don't like DS2? If you don't care about it then don't comment on it.

- You can use Humanity to feed Bonfires precisely because it is a fragment of the Dark Soul. Bonfires are essentially channels to the first flame, set up most likely by Gwyn, so that humanity was constantly being fed to it prolonging the First Flame. This isn't really unique to Humanity/Dark Soul, seemingly any powerful soul could be fed to the First Flame, but Gwyn would obviously be loathe to burn his, until he got desperate. So they used Humanity. Also serve to keep Humans in check.

- I don't get what you mean by "Man being so royally fucked by the Age of Dark." Only time do we see them being harmed by it, Oolacile, and that was because Manus, who had been driven mad, twisted and corrupted it, as explained in the Bloathead item description. Otherwise, the Dark described by Wellager was said to be a time of extroardinary peace.

- Who says Kaathe was doing his bidding? The Serpents do no ones bidding, they simply just play both sides. Hence why both bow to you during the Dark Lord ending, even though it seemed like Frampt was allied with Gwyn.