Talk:Sinh, the Slumbering Dragon/@comment-216.249.87.75-20141008044617/@comment-216.249.87.75-20141008103228

I've been enjoying this back and forth so far, but unfortunately I need to get to bed soon, so this will be my last post tonight. I would love to continue our discussion tomorrow though.

You're correct in saying that not all dragons encountered in Dark Souls are Everlasting Dragons. Seath (forgive my spelling error before, it's late here! Not sure where I got Seethe...), Kalameet and the Stone Dragon were indeed all described generally as Ancient/Everlasting Dragons while the Gaping Dragon and Hellkite Dragon/Drake are descendants. The one thing that bound them all together, and why I lumped them together as such, is because they are all dragon-kin and each one had a corresponding weapon received through tail cuts.

While it is true that not all bosses in the game dropped "boss souls", most powerful entities did and their boss weapons were formed from that soul. If dragons and dragon-kin did have souls, would it not have been easier to have their boss weapons be forged in the same manner? Why single out dragon-kin for having such a unique way of giving the player access to their respective weapons? The only reason I can see, other than a fun gameplay mechanic, is that they don't have souls of their own. Even the unique properties of their weapons imply an unusual quality of their bodies (unique latent power, the inablilty to uprade them without Dragon Scales, etc.).

You raise a very valid point on the subject of their existence prior to the First Flame. Perhaps they did simply exist and were more a part of their environment than a living, breathing animal. It is a possiblity that they were, for the lack of a better term, inanimate before disparity and hostility arose from Gwyn and his group changing the status quo. Honestly, no definite answers can truly be extrapolated from what little information we have, so I suppose that the idea that dragons do not, and never did, have souls is a subject of debate. It just felt strange to me that in Dark Souls II, it was suddenly an established fact that dragon-kin do indeed have souls and that the tail cutting mechanic, while still intact, had no purpose anymore beyond shortening the reach of their tail swipes.