Talk:Throne Watcher and Defender/@comment-6716700-20140505064104/@comment-166.127.1.184-20140708152606

Vestaldt and the Throne guys are not fragments of Manus. Their souls merely got corrupted, I believe, by the dark (abyss, Manus's influence, the undead curse, I dunno) like Artorias. The developers would've told us something that important in their soul descriptions.