Talk:Abyss/@comment-67.7.241.210-20140804154043/@comment-25156049-20140821210547

This is something thats not gonna be solved till all of the Dlc's are released and even then it might just raise more questions.

and dont you mean the Duke because Freja is a creation not a creator its more likely the hollow past her created both of them seeing that he was oppssessed with spiders and scorpions being of the same family he likely created tark and Najka Seaths soul is no doubt an influence but not in a direct way he is more of a presence then an actual manifestation just like all the other lord souls influence the events of the world. think of it in terms of mass effect having a Reaper artifact would cause people to go mad and get indoctrinated just by their presence they didnt need to actively do anything just be their.

But manus isnt a lord he was a man and thats where it differs. the Remnants of the lord souls themselves dont seem conscious but the shards of manus are so they have their own agendas

Fire wants to spread in any way that it can thats why it persists it does not carry the personalities of those who discovered it if it did then all of the old ones would attempt to gain power of some sort but they dont their contempt with exile and disarray. they mind their own business.