Talk:Furtive Pygmy/@comment-66.87.125.64-20140123060742/@comment-67.77.229.32-20140324155822

Or not... the soul was completely shattered to create humanity... How can you get the Dark Soul from him if he shattered it? Gwyn "divided" his soul and gave the pieces to others and at that only 4 others. He didn't shatter it to create fragments for an entire race..., that is why you still get his, because he still has the largest piece. If the Pygmy did what seems to be a selfless and kind act by giving his soul away to create a new species, or to one that already existed, then no... he would not have a soul to give. Manus's soul outright states that it is just a giant clump of humanity, so it could be argued that its not even a real soul. Just a large collection of fractured pieces of a "real" soul, a Lord Soul. Much like how Hollows still hold vestiges of  humanity on them and you get it when you kill them. It's entirely possible that Manus is the Pygmy... just Hollow. It is stated that his humanity went wild and he is now essentially a mindless killing machine. Isn't that what a Hollow is? While hollows become so by losing their humanity and becoming mindless killing machines, it is possible that a similar process takes place when you have too much humanity. Weather Manus is the Pygmy or not, IDK. But I do know that the "you would get his soul" argument is incredibly invalid and baseless. There is actually more evidence supporting that Manus is the pygmy than not. But again, IDK. This is of coarse my opinion and is in no way meant to be offensive... even though it kindof is.