Talk:Lightning Spear (Dark Souls II)/@comment-4785102-20150320082227

I don't care what anyone says, but FROM basically killed lightning spears.

Anyone who has reasonable amount of attunement of, say, 40 now gets 5 Lightning Spears and 4 Great Lightning spears. In addition to that, despite what they say, their recaulcation actually resulted in decreased damage.

WHY did they have to do that? It was basically _the_only_ useful attacking Miracle! Nobody can seriously expect people to effectively use Heavenly Thunder; just like stuff like Fire Storm it doesn't even hit the enemy half the time and leaves you open to running up to and meleeing to death. And even before being nerfect Lightning Spears were completely useless in PVP because only an idiot cannot dodge them.

Why, again I ask? With the same stats as my battle cleric (say 20 Int 50 Fai; I sometimes use basic utility magic too) and Pyromancy Flame +10 I can deal almost 500 damage with a regular Fireball which has 11 uses for me! And Fire Orb, which has 4 uses just like GLS, is now even more powerful than GLS was. Where's the sense in that? I'm not saying anything about Hexes because my 150-level friend hexer already deals more damage while I'm SL 247.

So now we have no attack miracles. At the same time in Dark Souls 1 BOTH LS and GLS ALWAYS had 10 casts each. They were just a little bit slower. And I can tell you, I just beat DS1 again and I prefer its LS and GLS much more than they're in DS2.