Talk:Manus, Father of the Abyss/@comment-65.99.56.66-20170710114309/@comment-25770585-20170721074030

He's often referred to as a primeval human, with primeval generally meaning he's one of the first humans, or at least an ancient one, but I doubt he's the Furtive Pygmy as it seems he actually "died" when he turned the Dark Soul into it's fragments which created men. If anything, humanity as a whole, in unity, is the proper manifestation of the Furtive Pygmy.

Due to Manus being so ancient, and being a powerful sorcerer, he was likely captured and tortured until he succumbed simply because people feared his power. (Also due to his magic, it's likely he was among the first to create dark magic/hexes.) Afterwards, many years later, his grave was discovered by Kaathe, who likely fooled Oolacile into rousing Manus from his slumber because he hoped that Manus was the Dark Lord that he was looking for, and it clearly didn't go well considering that he ended up being taken down by the real Dark Lord. (Chosen Undead)