Talk:Darkstalker Kaathe/@comment-7367130-20131206022908/@comment-5264386-20131206025506

No matter which way you look at it, whether you choose to side with Frampt or Kaathe, you get manipulated by them. Both the Age of Fire and the Age of Dark are painted as 'heroic' and 'beautiful' by the serpents, yet we never see the outcome of our choice at the end. How do we even know that either Age will end the curse of Undeath? We don't, and for all we know, breaking the curse of Undeath could be another lie told to you by both serpents in their attempt to sway you to their side.

How can a berserk animal, a being driven insane by the loss of a pendant, be even remotely considered a hero? Besides, just because Manus is described as "primal" man, doesn't make him the Furtive Pygmy. If we had a straight timeline to work from, we would possibly be able to end this theory, but since we don't, there is an equal, if not more probable, chance that Manus is not the Pygmy.