Board Thread:Dark Souls II/@comment-24494913-20140319193521/@comment-10209824-20140324034044

Most of his evidence seems to be that lots of characters said, "Many kingdoms rose and fell on this land." That can mean a whole manner of kingdoms, Baldur fell in DS1 from the curse just like Lordran, and most of the evidence seems to point that Drangleic stands upon where Vinheim stood. His evidence also completely ignores the giants and in the game its said that Vendrick took something from them in one of his raids. What he took is most likely the First Flame.