Board Thread:Dark Souls II/@comment-5613590-20130119072920/@comment-84.170.129.146-20130911094000

Look at the dialog with kaathe, he gives so much hints. Its true if the flames are gone the age of darkness beginn.

Oolacile is even a hint to kaathe(or may another primordial serpent), he brought the abyss over the city. He lied to the people to release manus who called the father of the abyss.

You fightin Manus not in complete darkness(different to the four kings) which shows the abyss is a progress.