Talk:Manus, Father of the Abyss/@comment-71.204.137.193-20130629085511/@comment-6003396-20130629090434

Manus is the "primeval man", which suggests that he has been around long before the events of the DLC, his awakening putting in motion the creation of the Abyss. and if he is the "Father of the Abyss", then he could not be "born" from it, but rather, the Abyss was born from Manus.

though, it is likely that the serpent refers to Kaathe.