Talk:Dark Wood Grain Ring/@comment-1687225-20120622133859/@comment-1687225-20120624200621

regarding the rest of your points...Dark Souls is precisely as non-linear as I think, because there are so many interconnected locations and so many different ways to get to them. In your "guide", you detailed the way to Shiva through the door which is opened through the Crest of Artorias, while neglecting to mention the opposite way that can be used to reach him via basin or the 5 ways to get to blighttown. You may think that it is ok to be vague and incomplete as an editor by brushing this off as "Dark Souls is not that non-linear", but the problem remains: the information on location is simply not complete. There are two solutions to this, which I've already detailed. You can either detail every single way you can get to Shiva and thus create a tedious essay on every single item and spell page in this wiki, or you can produce short, concise pages with the relevant links and rely on the inviting format to let readers find their own way. Notice how on wikipedia pages they don't list everything from every link ever on one page. They simply create the link and from there on it's up to the reader to click on it.

As to turning my back on Shiva's bodyguard: WotG and Firestorm works nicely, as well as homing soulmass, or force if you want to just blast him off and quit and load the game.

This wiki is still in development with a small but dedicated group of editors, with an agreed upon system of how the information should be formatted and presented. If you can't work with this standard, I strongly suggest that you find another wiki to spend your valuable time and writing skills.