Talk:Very Large Ember/@comment-70.209.22.222-20150411183604/@comment-75.174.85.32-20161205073322

Same AWC from above, if you want to avoid both these areas you can try your luck at aquiring any of the black knight weapons. With good parrying and a bit of fenangling you can kill a black knight in the undead burg which may give you the black knight sword (a greatsword) which can be two-handed with 14 Str and 18 Dex and is a beast of a weapon, even outdamaging the Zwei early in the game and upgrades with twinkling, no ascention needed.