Talk:Abyss/@comment-67.7.241.210-20140804154043/@comment-16047389-20140825203415

If that was the case, then Dark Souls 2 would be incompletable, as Vendrick did collect the Four Great Souls and used them to build Drangleic, but he never kindled the First Flame. If the souls were "spit out as embers" after kindling, then the protagonist of Dark Souls 2 would never be able to obtain them.