Board Thread:Dark Souls II/@comment-5264386-20130801122019/@comment-18016240-20131027115709

Ah, but then there's the fact that Thorolund is a theocracy, or at least is heavily influenced by the church. And if the humans were being sheparded by the gods then that would imply that the government was until recently dominated by the main inhabitants of Lordran. (until they disappeared of course, leaving Gwyndolin and Nito as the only actual gods left.)

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If Lordran is a refuge to the Undead, then WW2 era Germany was a utopia to my grandparents.

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True, this seems to give more credit to the theory that DS2 takes place in the far future, when thew gods are largely gone. Leaving what happened in DS shrouded in mystery since almost no one other than the Chosen Undead lived to tell the tale. (depending on the ending.)