Board Thread:Dark Souls II/@comment-24494913-20140319193521/@comment-6003396-20140407014917

184.5.186.240 wrote: While I personally do not care if Drangleic and Lordran are the same or even exist on completely different planets, I feel the need to inject a few points into this discussion.

Firstly, Dark Souls 1 & 2 are both works of fiction, therefore there is no absolute truth until the product is completed and it is stated by person or persons that made the decisions that set those truths. Even after such a truth is established, it is not immutable. Unlike the real world, a fictious universe is always subject to change.

Secondly, in regards to Smough, it may be a giant. However all the evidence presented has been circumstancial or speculative. There is not enough evidence to claim that Smough is a member of the giant species, only that it is humanoid and very large. Actually on the subject of the Lordran giants, there is no evidence that they are an organic species as opposed to artificial contructs (I have heard Gough cited, but did not purchase the DLC so my information may be outdated). Without Gough, the four confirmed giants (3 in Sens and the blacksmith) seem to support a construct theory as all perform repetitive service tasks long after those that put them to the tasks left.

I believe this post has taken enough of everyone's time. If you read this, thank you for your consideration. If you wish to post an antagonistic response, I do not care.

I agree with much of what you stated, although I didn't intend to mean that what the devs stated in those quotes were an "absolute truth", only that they should be differentiated from their personal opinions and regarded as something more substantive, and can even be thought of as relative truths, given their context, at the time that they were stated. That, of course, doesn't mean that they didn't change their minds at some point about what that "truth" is.

With regard to the giants, there is some evidence that they are organic. The three in Sen's Fortress do appear to have skin, and I believe that they can even be inflicted with the bleed status effect. They also seem to have lungs, as they can be observed breathing in and out heavily after they do their wild flailing arm attack. They may have acted as slaves, and do not come across as being terribly smart, which might explain why they continue to serve in their stations. Hawkeye Gough, at least, is a giant that doesn't come across as an artificial construct. You can get an idea of how he looks on his page and in the gallery.

I also just want to add that while we all may not always agree with one another, people generally don't necessarily mean to be antagonistic. So long as no one resorts to personal insults, the forums should be a place where we can all share our thoughts openly without having to worry about offending others by simply not agreeing.