Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-12349789-20161211080826/@comment-12349789-20170420221513

99.12.66.251 wrote: Brenton239 wrote: Tell me then. put me in my place please... how do we know its really havel? armour? his soldiers wore it. ring? his warriors used that too... come on tell me if your so sure... and dont be a duche please there is no need for that attiude/\.

So quick to quote item descriptions, and yet you overlook the one that outright says that Havel is locked in the tower in Undead Burg. And what do we find in Undead Burg's tower but a guy with Havel's signature weapon and shield? And yet Andre, who you claim is Havel, is nowhere to be found in the tower.

You can clamour "BUT HIS SOLDIERS WORE THE ARMOR AND RINGS TOO" all you want but that won't change the fact that it's Havel in the tower, your idea is wrong, and that Andre is not Havel.

If you don't want people to get pissy about your 'lore theory' then maybe you should come up with one that the game doesn't flat-out say is wrong, and hasn't been posted fifty-thousand times.

Also, I find it absolutely adorable that you piss and moan about the lore and nobody liking it despite that blatantly being wrong, or are you going to pretend the countless topics and videos and discussions on it don't exist? By saying this theory that's been done to death and then trying to claim the writers are bad when you get called on it, you've made yourself look very foolish.

I never once said andre was havel NOT ONCE you thick noob. now quit sprouting insults and give me facts. what is this said item that says HAVEL was locked EXACTLY in the lower undead burg?