Board Thread:Dark Souls II/@comment-46.64.182.203-20140312230146/@comment-5115051-20140403172609

Lazule wrote: Daifukkatsu wrote:

This seems highly unlikely to me. Ornstein's item descriptions from the first Dark Souls state things like: "Ornstein, who guards the cathedral in the forsaken city of Anor Londo." If he guards the cathedral, then he would have to be faced by the Chosen Undead. For From to rewrite something that is unavoidable seems sloppy from a storytelling perspective. The idea that Ornstein in DaSI is an illusion also seems implausible to me. The fact that the Pursuer can be encountered again after his defeat and the collection of his soul suggests that death means something different to these "special beings". If the Pursuer can be encountered after his defeat, then why not Ornstein? This idea allows for a huge amount of possibilities, and leaves many other questions unanswered, but if we are to assume that the Old Dragonslayer and Ornstein are indeed one and the same, then this seems like the most likely explanation to me (though I personally find it unsatisfying). I was just saying that is possible that the CU never finished his journey (was killed by ornstein and went totally hollow) or hell maybe he didn't even existed in the canon story. Is there any evidence that he finished his journey in DkS2? Do they mention him/her?

Anyway. Without a single doubt thats the goddamn Ornstein. Well in Dark Souls, the First Flame was dying and the Age of Fire was coming to an end. Considering that the First Flame still exists in Dark Souls 2, that must mean the CU had followed Frampt's path and sacrificed himself to prolong the Age of Fire in the canon story.