Talk:Karmic Justice/@comment-24263148-20131029042354/@comment-3492791-20140822003750

I've been doing some experimenting on this and found some interesting results.

It seems that every basic weapon has a magic adjust of 100, including fists. Tested while holding all kinds of weapons, and even no weapon at all, and the damage was unchanged. Compared these results to an unupgrade pyromancy flame with a MA of 100 and got the same results.

What changed a weapon's MA seems to be magic scaling (faith and intelligence). The higher the scaling with either faith or intellegence, the higher the damage output of Karmic Justice, Occult and Enchanted weapons having the best results. I wonder how effective the double scaling of the Greatsword of Artorias would be?

Basically if you use any weapon that doesn't do magic damage (with the exception of the cursed SWoA) Karmic Justice is a waste of time and attument.