Board Thread:Dark Souls II/@comment-2.223.169.191-20140325204725/@comment-31.165.114.136-20150919195627

129.252.175.45 wrote: heres a quick theory. Im all for Dark Jeto's theory; i think the Lost Sinner is the Witch of Izilith and all that. But that raises the question of what the Bed of Chaos is. Well my theory for this is that the BoC is the shard of the First Flame she had; The Flame of Life that she experimented on was the BoC. She survived but couldnt deal with what she had done to her children, so she ran away and later imprisoned herself on another continent. This would explain how in DS one you defeated BoC and got the Flame and yet this time in DS 2 you get the soul of the witch; in that she was able to grow consciousness without her Godly Soul. If you pay close attention to some details you'll find out that your theory doesn't quite work.

SPOILERS (if that's possible at this point)

In DS1 in the DLC you fight Artorias in Oolacile, if you reload the area you'll find Lord's Blade Ciaran who sits at a small grave made for Artorias. If you then complete the DLC and have freed Sif in the Chasm you'll even get a Cutscene where Sif recognizes you and after the fight with Sif you can find a Corpse with the Hornet ring behind the large Grave.

All the swords around that grave are either honorings or the Swords of the Undead that tried fighting Sif and died. However the Hornet ring belonged to Ciaran, if you pay attention then the Arena you fight Sif heavily appears to be ruin of the Arena where you fought Artorias which means Lordran is just a new name, it's still the same location as Oolacile just in the future and not anymore called Oolacile.

Now i found MANY areas in DS2 that resemble Areas of DS1 which may be a coincidence or the devs hinting at Drangleic just being the future Lordran.

Another thing that implies that is that when you do the Crown of the Ivory King DLC you'll find Alsanna, read up on her and you'll find that she's a fragment of Manus who didn't actually die but seperated into many pieces with the 4 we know being Nashandra, Elana, Nadalia and Alsanna. The interesting thing about Eleum Loyce however that if you pay attention you'll find that is it a Kingdom.... a kingdom built on the Ruins of Izalith as the Burnt Ivory King was burnt and driven insane by none other than the Bed of Chaos (As soon as you enter the Cathedral where Alsanna prays it becomes obvious as the whole area is filled with Frozen Tree roots.)