Talk:Furtive Pygmy/@comment-71.183.88.104-20140220030559

Manus has to be the Furtive Pygmy. Humans were born from the Dark, since the progenitor of the Chosen Undead claimed the Dark Soul and ushered in the Age of Dark (a.k.a. the Age of Men). Gough and Kaathe both mention the flames fading and only Dark remaining. Manus' wrath caused the Abyss and the Dark to rise in Oolacile. Since the Furtive Pygmy claimed the Dark Soul once the Fire was subsiding, Dark started to remain. Manus was claimed to be a primeval man, meaning ancient. Humans were born from the dark, as you can see from the Humanity Phantoms roaming around the Chasm of the Abyss that caused them to lose their human form. If Manus is the Father of the Abyss, then he must be the one that created the Abyss. Ergo, he created humanity. Ergo, he created the Dark and tried to usher in the Age of Dark or the Age of Men. And since the Dark Soul was as powerful as a Lord Soul, his humanity went wild and he turned into a beast. Why do you think he's stronger (or just as strong) as Gwyn? He's one of the founders of the Souls of Lords.