Talk:Dragonslayer Spear (Dark Souls II)/@comment-24701196-20140407003107/@comment-24702218-20140410231920

Ornstein was never in the abyss, but I see why you think that, given that he uses dark magic against you. Well, the Old Dragonslayer does, at least. You can speculate all you want, but it's difficult to say whether or not he is the actual Ornstein, given that he somehow has the Leo Ring, despite the player having taken it if they killed him last in Dark Souls. But I degress. The Old Dragonslayer does not use a magic of the abyss, rather, it looks as though he uses a dark magic that was used by those corrupted by the abyss, but they had developed those hexes before having been corrupted.