Board Thread:Dark Souls/@comment-25173123-20140825050403/@comment-97.91.150.60-20141211062359

@Billy Ho XBL

I wouldn't be so hard on a new theory as it does kinda corilate with the knights of gwyn's weapon types but I don't think the knights of gwyn were around durring the fight with the everlasting dragons. Either way the knights were indded silver knights from the beginning but for name sake they are just knights up untill the split when gwyn goes to the kiln because no name is needed to define them untill that point. I can say with 100% certanty that the knights at anor londo are the same style of knights that were present at the fight with the everlasting dragons. I've spent the last half hour comparing details of silver knight armor to the glimpses of knights from the intro cutscene and they are dead on accurate with the details I comapred. First off is the neck guard which black knights has a unique spike shape, while silver knights are rounded and simply wrap around the neck. There is also the wing shapped spikes on the helm, the layered plating of the gauntles and side skirts(This detail is very similar to the black knights) and there is no mistaking the silver knight sword which is identicle in every way to the ones found in anor londo. The only thing making them any different is the altered shield from gwen. But like I said before I am 100% sure the same knights have been used from the begging to the end of gwyn, only difference is durring the split when some protected the princess and the others followed gwyn. Now the split between black knights from fighting choas demons and the lighting of the kiln is tricky because choas demons came to be along with the failed attempt at trying to relight the flame with the witches lord soul as all the people inside the city of Izalith were transformed into said demons. So it seems like both causes for the charred knights existance is valid but happened at different times.

Zelron had the best guess at this, as its possible the now black knights were taken to the kiln but if they are already black then saying they were turned black durring the lighting would be pointless. So therefor silver would have to be present aswell.

A guess of myown would be that the knights that fought against the choas demons are the very black knights we see walking around lordan, this would explain the seperation of the two groups of black knights. Also another factor is that silver knights and black knights have different weapons entierly. First off there are no enemies inside the kiln right now (I cannot speak of before the lighting, there had to be some reason gwyn needed an army to enter the place) but the discriptions of black knight weapons mention they are of that size to fight the creatures of long past, sounds kind of like  choas demons to me. But the black knights in the kiln have the same black knight weapons so it kinda beats me unless from software just decided to make it confusing and not give the knights of the kiln unique charred silver knight weapons which would make more sense so that the lordan black knights would be the knights of choas demons while the knights of the kiln are charred silver knights.

So we have

Pre-Anor Londo Knights Aka Silver knights

Silver Knights Princess Guard

Silver knights Gwyn Guard/Charred Black Knights

Silver Knights Choas Demon Hunters/Black Knights of Lordan.