Talk:Spears/@comment-1687225-20121218060046/@comment-5524716-20140522171746

Although I will grant that turtling is much easier to do with spears (and thrusting swords, to a lesser extent), it's those kind of players that give us spear fighters a bad name. At the end of the day, though, a spear is a defensive weapon, with long range and the ability to attack while blocking. You can find turtles using every weapon type, though, and you can find plenty of spear users who aren't turtles. And dealing with turtles isn't as daunting a task as one may think. If you learn the weaknesses of the different shields (and they all have weaknesses. Okay, except maybe Havel's Gshield), you can beat turtles, because they generally aren't very good once you realize that you can damage them though their shield. I always carry a variety of magic, fire, and lightning weapons when I do PVP, in addition to my Pike +15. If someone is attacking from behind a shield, that also means he is only attacking with a small hurtbox directly in front of him. Basically, use elemental damage to get through their shield, and sidestep their attacks. If a spear has a sweeping attack (Partizan and Silver Knight Spear are the only two spears that have such an attack), it is extremely telegraphed. Either block it or roll. Sorry for the rant, I just don't like it when people make broad generalizations like that.