Board Thread:Dark Souls/@comment-25173123-20140825050403

Decided to move this discussion over to the forums. My verbiage once again got too long on the article and I was tempted to post on Gwyn's page too.

Here is the info we have on Silver/Black Knights as we are using for Lore on them and even Gwyn. (if I am missing something then please include exact verbiage along with a link.)

Black Knight Shield:

In-Game Description

'''Shield of the Black Knights that wander Lordran. A flowing canal is chiseled deeply into its face.'''

Long ago, the black knights faced the chaos demons, and were charred black, but their shields became highly resistant to fire.

Black Knight Helm:

In-Game Description

Helm of the Black Knight who haunt Lordran.

The knights followed Lord Gwyn when he departed to link the flame, but they were burned to ashes in newly kindled fire, wandering the world as disembodied spirits ever after.

Silver Knight Shield:

In-Game Description

'''Shield of the Silver Knights of Anor Londo. A flowing canal is carved deep into its face.'''

The Silver Knights stayed behind in Anor Londo to defend the illusory goddess, and their shields are blessed with her divine protection.

Silver Knight Helm:

In-Game Description

Helm of the Silver Knights who protect Anor Londo.

'''When Lord Gwyn departed to link the Fire, his knights split into two groups. The Silver Knights remained in the forsaken capital in the service of their goddess.'''

So as we see Gwyn had a single group of knights prior to departing to link the Fire. This single group was never identified as Black nor Silver, only as knights.

Upon Gwyn leaving we read that Silver Knights were placed in the service of their goddess. (does not specify they were Silver Knights prior to being placed to guard her. Any eluding to them being Silver Knights prior is speculation.)

We also see that the knights that accompanied Gwyn on his mission were charred black. And then labeled as Black Knights. Nothing identifying them as being anything but Gwyn's knights prior to that. No identification of them ever being Silver Knights. (Any eluding to them being Silver Knights prior is speculation.)

So I am not seeing anything that shows Gwyn ever having Silver Knights under his control. Only that he placed knights to guard the goddess that were then labeled as Silver Knights. And the Silver Knights were blessed with divine protection on their shields from the goddess. (Showing she indeed did alter the gear of the knights beneath her. Their shield's at least.)

Is there any other Lore that points to Gwyn having Silver Knights under him? Or is it just pointing out that Silver Knights at one time were knights under Gwyn?

Is there any dropped text from game that might point to a direct pointing of Silver Knights being the default knight under Gwyn prior to him departing for his mission? Or was the annotation/labeling of Silver/Black Knights an occurance after the single knight group was broken into two separate groups?

Please discuss this Lore with information gathered from in game and less speculation from created Lore out of game. Thank you.

(again, just getting into reading bits and pieces of Lore as people discuss it based on game facts. And am learning myself what is actual and what is speculated.) 