Board Thread:Dark Souls II/@comment-46.64.182.203-20140312230146/@comment-5633574-20140324024314

I somehow doubt that Smough would kill the Ornstein in Anor Londo so brutally if it were just an illusion, nor would he be able to siphon that much electricity from it. At the same time, given the description of the spear the Old Dragonslayer's soul makes, I find it hard to disagree with the idea that Old Dragonslayer and Ornstein are one in the same.

So who's to say that they both can't be Ornstein? Time distortions are a wonderful thing.